Topic: 可找到好地方了，原来高人们的确看得清楚啊，早就给总结出来利弊了。推荐看链接里的座山雕的文章。里面问题有很多也是我想的、问的、没有答案的。老雕替我罗列了，省了码字了。见链接！ @圣地亚哥华人论坛:圣地亚哥枫下论坛 The Rolia Forum of San Diego

枫下拾英 / 心灵感悟 / 可找到好地方了，原来高人们的确看得清楚啊，早就给总结出来利弊了。推荐看链接里的座山雕的文章。里面问题有很多也是我想的、问的、没有答案的。老雕替我罗列了，省了码字了。见链接！ -hututu(hututu); 2009-8-11 (#5478042@0)

So, you are excited and felt relieved from something when you found these articles written by some high-rated people ? But what drives you to seek them? I like to know if you found the truth of life and wanted to share ? -kaibauds(凯包子); 2009-8-12 (#5479017@0)

It's the posts about 沈中和方舟子 guided me to the articles. I have questions about god and it seems someone have listed the questions already. I haven't found the truth of life and am trying to. -hututu(hututu); 2009-8-12 (#5479038@0)

Don't know Shen. Heard of Fang Zhouzi, whose articles suggest the writer sounds like emotional and having many biased opinions, far from a serious thinker. And lots of disrespect words to a religion let him down.Bloody and cruel things happened in may Bible stories, which is apparent and not necessary to be specifically pointed out by any person. However, these are what human beings need to be thinking seriously.
I am not a Christian, but i show my greatest respect to Bible, where i see some deepest wisdom and kindness about human's life. -kaibauds(凯包子); 2009-8-12 {334} (#5479675@0)

I am not a Christian, but i show my greatest respect to some of the Christian, BUT not bible. I don't agree with FangZhouZi to some extent, but I do have similar questions about Shen which have been listed in those articles. -hututu(hututu); 2009-8-12 (#5479708@0)

{ 我无法想象存在这样一个上帝，它会对自己的创造物加以赏罚，会具有我们在自己身上所体验到的那种意志。......} 原来爱因斯坦不相信上帝。基督教会不是常常宣传爱因斯坦是基督徒吗？ -72350(72350); 2009-8-12 (#5479698@0)

这句话不能说明爱因斯坦不相信上帝,他只是不相信会赏罚人的上帝。爱因斯坦还有名言:"我信仰斯宾诺莎的上帝，在存在的万物处于自然规律(法则)下的和谐时，上帝自己会出现，上帝不是控制人类命运和行为的‘上帝’。"简单说,爱因斯坦&斯宾诺莎的上帝，相当于孔子笔下的“天”他不会因为信他而让人活，也不会让不信他的人死，他是一个客观存在，是宇宙的法则，人类能做的，不是匍匐在他脚下愚昧地祷告，而是用知识，用努力的工作和研究，去了解上帝，只有学习知识，才能达到敬畏上帝赞美上帝，即敬畏和赞美我们这个宇宙。 -w4b(Watch for Beauty); 2009-8-12 {229} (#5481118@0)

“位我上者，灿烂星空。” 有理性的，开化的，受到启蒙的智能人类都不会迷信一个拟人化了的虚构的神。宇宙本身、大自然本身，就足以让我们无限敬畏了，没必要庸人自扰，自己捏造出一个东西来。 -lifesucks(世间已无北京城); 2009-8-13 (#5481214@0)

英文参考(我也不知道爱因斯坦讲话时用的什么语言，他好像会好几国的)，引用为了避免中文翻译的偏向和误译："In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God.... -w4b(Watch for Beauty); 2009-8-13 {1074} (#5481171@0)

"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings." -lifesucks(世间已无北京城); 2009-8-13 (#5481209@0)

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