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当年希特勒要灭绝犹太人, 基本上是得到整个日尔曼民族的支持, 就是欧洲其他国家, 也没有太强烈的反对的声音. 曾经百思不得其解, 后来找到答案了. 为什么? 请读圣经

马 太 福 音 Matthew

27:20 祭 司 长 和 长 老 , 挑 唆 众 人 , 求 释 放 巴 拉 巴 , 除 灭 耶 稣 。
27:21 巡 抚 对 众 人 说 , 这 两 个 人 , 你 们 要 我 释 放 哪 一 个 给 你 们 呢 ? 他 们 说 , 巴 拉 巴 。
27:22 彼 拉 多 说 , 这 样 , 那 称 为 基 督 的 耶 稣 , 我 怎 么 办 他 呢 ? 他 们 都 说 , 把 他 钉 十 字 架 。
27:23 巡 抚 说 , 为 什 么 呢 ? 他 作 了 什 么 恶 事 呢 ? 他 们 便 极 力 地 喊 着 说 , 把 他 钉 十 字 架 。
27:24 彼 拉 多 见 说 也 无 济 于 事 , 反 要 生 乱 , 就 拿 水 在 众 人 面 前 洗 手 , 说 , 流 这 义 人 的 血 , 罪 不 在 我 , 你 们 承 当 吧 。
27:25 众 人 都 回 答 说 , 他 的 血 归 到 我 们 , 和 我 们 的 子 孙 身 上 。

希特勒杀犹太人有政治经济的原因, 但是能够让整个民族把灭绝人性的事当作正义行为的, 只有是宗教. "他的血归到我们,和我们的子孙身上。...." 这就是我为什么说基督教是邪教!
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  • 枫下拾英 / 心灵感悟 / 突然想起一个问题,希特勒是基督徒吗?为什么他给手下颁发的都是“十字勋章”?他当时杀犹太人是不是因为宗教的原因(或以宗教为借口)?(因为犹太人不承认耶稣基督)
    • 虽然教会否认希特勒是基督徒,但他言行都证明他是基督徒...下面是希特勒的一些宗教的观点...
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      “I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, from John Toland [Pulitzer Prize winner], Adolf Hitler, New York: Anchor Publishing, 1992, p. 507. )


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      “The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God's will, and actually fulfill God's will, and not let God's word be desecrated. For God's will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord's creation, the divine will.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Ralph Mannheim, ed., New York: Mariner Books, 1999, p. 562. )


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      “Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Ralph Mannheim, ed., New York: Mariner Books, 1999, p. 65. )


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      “My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice. And as a man I have the duty to see to it that human society does not suffer the same catastrophic collapse as did the civilization of the ancient world some two thousand years ago — a civilization which was driven to its ruin through this same Jewish people.

      “Then indeed when Rome collapsed there were endless streams of new German bands flowing into the Empire from the North; but, if Germany collapses today, who is there to come after us? German blood upon this earth is on the way to gradual exhaustion unless we pull ourselves together and make ourselves free!

      “And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people are plundered and exploited.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, in a speech delivered at Munich, April 12, 1922; from Norman H. Baynes, ed., The Speeches of Adolf Hitler: April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1, New York: Oxford University Press, 1942, pp. 19-20. )


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      “For this, to be sure, from the child's primer down to the last newspaper, every theater and every movie house, every advertising pillar and every billboard, must be pressed into the service of this one great mission, until the timorous prayer of our present parlor patriots: 慙ord, make us free!?is transformed in the brain of the smallest boy into the burning plea: ?i>Almighty God, bless our arms when the time comes; be just as thou hast always been; judge now whether we be deserving of freedom; Lord, bless our battle!?#148;

      ( Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Ralph Mannheim, ed., New York: Mariner Books, 1999, pp. 632-633. )


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      “I may not be a light of the church, a pulpiteer, but deep down I am a pious man, and believe that whoever fights bravely in defense of the natural laws framed by God and never capitulates will never be deserted by the Lawgiver, but will, in the end, receive the blessings of Providence.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, in a speech delivered on July 5, 1944; from Charles Bracelen Flood, Hitler: The Path to Power, Boston, Mass: Houghton Mifflin Company, 1989, p. 208. )


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      “I say: my Christian feeling tells me that my lord and savior is a warrior. It calls my attention to the man who, lonely and surrounded by only a few supporters, recognized what they [the Jews] were, and called for a battle against them, and who, by God, was not the greatest sufferer, but the greatest warrior. . .

      “As a human being it is my duty to see to it that humanity will not suffer the same catastrophic collapse as did that old civilization two thousand years ago, a civilization which was driven to its ruin by the Jews. . . I am convinced that I am really a devil and not a Christian if I do not feel compassion and do not wage war, as Christ did two thousand years ago, against those who are steeling and exploiting these poverty-stricken people.

      “Two thousand years ago a man was similarly denounced by this particular race which today denounces and blasphememes all over the place. . . That man was dragged before a court and they said: he is arousing the people! So he, too, was an agitator!”

      ( Adolf Hitler, in a speech delivered on April 12, 1922; from Charles Bracelen Flood, Hitler: The Path to Power, Boston, Mass: Houghton Mifflin Company, 1989, pp. 261-262. )


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      “And now Staatspr鋝ident Bolz says that Christianity and the Catholic faith are threatened by us. And to that charge I can answer: In the first place it is Christians and not international atheists who now stand at the head of Germany. I do not merely talk of Christianity, no, I also profess that I will never ally myself with the parties which destroy Christianity. If many wish today to take threatened Christianity under their protection, where, I would ask, was Christianity for them in these fourteen years when they went arm in arm with atheism? No, never and at no time was greater internal damage done to Christianity than in these fourteen years when a party, theoretically Christian, sat with those who denied God in one and the same Government.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, in a speech delivered at Stuttgart, February 15, 1933. )


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      “We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, in a speech delivered in Berlin, October 24, 1933. )


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      “Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and contributes to the expulsion from paradise.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Ralph Mannheim, ed., New York: Mariner Books, 1999, p. 383. )


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      “We have experienced a miracle, something unique, something the like of which there has hardly been in the history of the world. God first allowed our people to be victorious for four and a half years, then He abased us, laid upon us a period of shamelessness, but now after a struggle of fourteen years he has permitted us to bring that period to a close. It is a miracle which has been wrought upon the German people. […] It shows us that the Almighty has not deserted our people, that He received it into favour at the moment when it rediscovered itself. And that our people shall never again lose itself, that must be our vow so long as we shall live and so long as the Lord gives us the strength to carry on the fight.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, in a speech to the 'Old Guard' of the Party at Munich, March 19, 1934. )


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      “The anti-Semitism of the new [Christian Social] movement was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Ralph Mannheim, ed., New York: Mariner Books, 1999, p. 119. )


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      “Thus inwardly armed with confidence in God and the unshakable stupidity of the voting citizenry, the politicians can begin the fight for the 憆emaking?of the Reich as they call it.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Ralph Mannheim, ed., New York: Mariner Books, 1999, p. 375. )


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      “Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted to live at this time. A fight for freedom had begun mightier than the earth had ever seen; for once Destiny had begun its course, the conviction dawned on even the broad masses that this time not the fate of Serbia or Austria was involved, but whether the German nation was to be or not to be.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Ralph Mannheim, ed., New York: Mariner Books, 1999, p. 161. )


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      “As far as this variety of ?i>folkish?warriors, are concerned, I can only wish the National Socialist movement and the German people with all my heart: 慙ord, preserve us from such friends, and then we can easily deal with our enemies.?#148;

      ( Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Ralph Mannheim, ed., New York: Mariner Books, 1999, p. 565. )


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      “It may be that today gold has become the exclusive ruler of life, but the time will come when man will again bow down before a higher god.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Ralph Mannheim, ed., New York: Mariner Books, 1999, p. 436. )


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      “What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction of our race and our people, the sustenance of our children and the purity of our blood, the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may mature for the fulfillment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the universe.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Ralph Mannheim, ed., New York: Mariner Books, 1999, p. 214. )


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      “Imbued with the desire to secure for the German people the great religious, moral, and cultural values rooted in the two Christian Confessions, we have abolished the political organizations but strengthened the religious institutions.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, in a speech at Reichstag, Berlin, January 30, 1934. )


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      “The advantages of a personal and political nature that might arise from compromising with atheistic organizations would not outweigh the consequences which would become apparent in the destruction of general moral basic values. The national government regards the two Christian confessions as the weightiest factors for the maintenance of our nationality: their rights are not to be infringed.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, in a speech at Reichstag, Berlin, March 23, 1933; published in his My New Order )


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      “Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, in 26 April 1933, from a speech made during negotiations leading to the Nazi-Vatican Concordant of 1933. )


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      “[T]he world has no reason for fighting in our defense, and as a matter of principle God does not make cowardly nations free…”

      ( Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Ralph Mannheim, ed., New York: Mariner Books, 1999, p. 622. )


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      “This human world of ours would be inconceivable without the practical existence of a religious belief.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Ralph Mannheim, ed., New York: Mariner Books, 1999, p. 152. )


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      “While we destroyed the Centre Party, we have not only brought thousands of priests back into the Church, but to millions of respectable people we have restored their faith in their religion and in their priests. The union of the Evangelical Church in a single Church for the whole Reich, the Concordat with the Catholic Church, these are but milestones on the road which leads to the establishment of a useful relation and a useful co operation between the Reich and the two Confessions.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, in his New Year Message, January 1, 1934. )


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      “National Socialism has always affirmed that it is determined to take the Christian Churches under the protection of the State. For their part the churches cannot for a second doubt that they need the protection of the State, and that only through the State can they be enabled to fulfill their religious mission. Indeed, the churches demand this protection from the State.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, in a Radio Broadcast July 22, 1933; from My New Order. )


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      “I know that here and there the objection has been raised: Yes, but you have deserted Christianity. No, it is not that we have deserted Christianity; it is those who came before us who deserted Christianity. We have only carried through a clear division between politics, which have to do with terrestrial things, and religion, which must concern itself with the celestial sphere. There has been no interference with the doctrine of the Confessions or with their religious freedom, nor will there be any such interference. On the contrary the State protects religion, though always on the one condition that religion will not be used as a cover for political ends.

      “There may have been a time when even parties founded on the ecclesiastical basis were a necessity. At that time Liberalism was opposed to the Church, while Marxism was anti-religious. But that time is past. National Socialism neither opposes the Church nor is it anti-religious, but on the contrary, it stands on the ground of a real Christianity.

      “The Church's interests cannot fail to coincide with ours alike in our fight against the symptoms of degeneracy in the world of to-day, in our fight against the Bolshevist culture, against an atheistic movement, against criminality, and in our struggle for the consciousness of a community in our national life, for the conquest of hatred and disunion between the classes, for the conquest of civil war and unrest, of strife and discord. These are not anti-Christian, these are Christian principles.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, in a speech delivered at Koblenz, August 26, 1934. )


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      “It would be more in keeping with the intention of the noblest man in this world if our two Christian churches, instead of annoying Negroes with missions which they neither desire nor understand, would kindly, but in all seriousness, teach our European humanity that where parents are not healthy it is a deed pleasing to God to take pity on a poor little healthy orphan child and give him father and mother, than themselves to give birth to a sick child who will only bring unhappiness and suffering on himself and the rest of the world.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Ralph Mannheim, ed., New York: Mariner Books, 1999, p. 403. )


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      “I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lords work.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, in a speech delivered at Reichstag, Berlin, 1936. )


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      “At the head of our [National Socialist] program there stand no secret surmisings but clear-cut perception and straightforward profession of belief. But since we set as the central point of this perception and of this profession of belief the maintenance and hence the security for the future of a being formed by God, we thus serve the maintenance of a divine work and fulfill a divine will—not in the secret twilight of a new house of worship, but openly before the face of the Lord.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, in a speech delivered at Nuremberg, September 6, 1938. )


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      “May God Almighty give our work His blessing, strengthen our purpose, and endow us with wisdom and the trust of our people, for we are fighting not for ourselves but for Germany.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, in a speech delivered at Berlin, February 1, 1933. )


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      “The judgment whether a people is virtuous or not virtuous can hardly be passed by a human being. That should be left to God.”

      ( Adolf Hitler, in a speech delivered at Wilhelmshaven, April 1, 1939. )更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
      • 蒋委员长是基督徒, 没人否定吧.
        • 前两天刚看过“宋氏王朝”,信上帝是蒋总裁求婚时丈母娘的3个条件之一
          • 目的是防止老蒋娶小老婆。
            • 原来如比,可能小布打伊拉克也是在这上头分歧太大
      • 说自己是基督徒的,并不见得就是基督徒。就象现在在教会中有许多浑水摸鱼的一样。看了阁下摘录的希特勒的"宗教观点",老实说,任何一个读过圣经的基督徒都不会因他的这些观点相信他是基督徒。
        这些观点实在有太多地方和圣经抵触。如果有一些不认识基督的人受了这些观点的蒙蔽,我只能说,希特勒声称是基督徒的目的达到了。他到现在还能蛊惑人心。
        另外,关于对待犹太人的态度,请参见我在本话题的另外一贴。(#2573923)
        • 仔细说说,我摘录的上面的希特勒的哪些观点和圣经抵触?明明是圣经里污蔑犹太人说"他的血归到我们,和我们的子孙身上。...." 你有什么根据说这句话是犹太人自己喊的?明明是圣经里污蔑犹太人的故事,你反倒说是犹太人自己的错.
          • 我的根据是圣经。你自己引用了圣经马太福音27:25 众 人 都 回 答 说 ," 他 的 血 归 到 我 们 , 和 我 们 的 子 孙 身 上 。" 原来你的意思是说这是圣经里诬蔑犹太人的故事。 那你就说说为什么这是诬蔑吧。
            • 你的逻辑就是,圣经永远是对的,所以圣经里说的"犹太人害死耶酥,犹太人承认他们自己和后代要为耶酥的死负责"的说法就是事实, 所以犹太人后代被宗教迫害不是圣经的原因,是犹太人自己的错...你还说希特勒不是基督徒,你和他思维方式都是一样的.
              • "你的逻辑就是,圣经永远是对的,所以圣经里说的"犹太人害死耶酥,犹太人承认他们自己和后代要为耶酥的死负责"的说法就是事实, "----yes. This is my opinion.
                "所以犹太人后代被宗教迫害不是圣经的原因,是犹太人自己的错" --- No. It's not my opinion. 犹太人后代也不是被宗教迫害。耶稣在十字架上对着那些钉他上十字架的人说:“父啊,赦免他们!因为他们所做的,他们不晓得。”
                我也不在乎你说 "你还说希特勒不是基督徒,你和他思维方式都是一样的. " 我的思维方式和他一不一样不是由你说了算。
                • 你敢当众说"是犹太人害死耶酥,犹太人自己和后代要为耶酥的死负责"吗?别怪我没有提醒你这种言行会被控告种族歧视的.
                  • 你为什么把别人话里的“犹太人承认”几个字去掉,去掉后就语意大变了。如果不去掉这几个字,我也同意他。如果会被控告种族歧视的话,麻烦你出首的时候把我也捎带上吧。:)
                    呵呵,kidding。其实基督是为罪人死,如果人不犯罪基督就不必来这市上了。所以追究谁亲手杀了基督是没有意义的,基督如果降生在中国,杀他的可能就中国人了。作为基督徒个人来说,耶稣不为其他,乃是单单为了我的罪的缘故死在十架上。
                    • 如果你自己没犯罪,而我说你承认你有罪和我说你有罪有什么区别?前者比后者更阴险毒辣...请参考llrm(小陳) 的帖子(#2541905)
                      • 区别还是有的,前者是事实论述(当然你可以去论证这并非事实,或者论证犹太人虽说了,但其实他们说错了),后者是判断。您的看法是《圣经》是骗人的,而基督徒人为《圣经》是神的话,基本出发点不同,怎么辩?除非请比拉多来当证人。
                        • 你坚持认为圣经里的故事都是事实.事实上犹太人根本不承认这件事..连有些教会都不再坚持圣经是精确的,.那还有什么可说的.说别人有罪或承认有罪,当然要有证据,而不是别人证明自己无罪,这最基本的定罪程序你该懂吧...
                          • 我在这里是说这个事实,并非判断谁有罪或无罪,这只有神能做。即使站在非基督教的立场,你应该去批驳《圣经》所说的事实,如果你无法举证,因为没有其他文献佐证,一般只能认为确有其事。否则我也可以说秦始皇没有焚书坑儒都是儒生编的
                          • 来来来,玩个逻辑推理游戏。这里提供一个旁证。顺便问一个问题,基督的死应该由谁负责?
                            塔奇托在他的编年史中这样写说:

                            「没有任何人为的方式,即使再多的财富、再隆重的祭祀典礼,也无法消除罗马的大火是受命执行的传言。为了解脱这个责任,内罗内皇帝便嫁祸于那些讨人厌的所谓的基督信徒。基督信徒这个名字来自基督,这位基督在蒂贝里奥皇帝执政时,被般雀.比拉多总督交处死刑。那个可恶的迷信方才诞生不久,就被压制下去,後来又死灰复燃,不仅在那个邪恶的诞生地犹太,也在罗马这个全世界所有令人不齿的事汇集的地方找到许多信徒。于是,凡宣认这个信仰的人就受到打击,在他们坦诚供认之後,又有很多人被控告,他们的罪名不再是放火烧焚罗马城,而是仇恨人类。把他们杀死已不再令人满足,还要叫他们披上禽兽的皮,好让狗来撕碎他们的肉,再不然,就把他们绑在涂上可燃烧的物质的柱子上或十字架上,晚间的时候就把他们点上火,当作照亮皇帝花园的火炬,并开始在剧场内玩耍作乐。内罗内皇帝就是这样自娱娱人,他有时候伪装马车夫混在人群中,有时候驾着自己的马车参加兢赛。即使那些人有罪,应该惩罚,但也令人不忍卒睹,因为大家都知道群众对这种闹剧并没有兴趣,那只不过是一个人的残酷而已,他愿意把他们铲除殆尽」。
    • 纳粹标志就是十字架变形来的吧。不过,公平来说,不应以此指责基督教。
      • I think it's from Budist. In Chinese temple there is a lot, Called "Wan" in Chinese
        • big different direction for the ending of cross, one is torward right, another one left.
          • not so sure(zt)
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            按卍字形式富有圖案意義,各民族的圖案大都有此類似形式。因此,可知希特勒的納粹標記和中土所流行的卍字是可能不一樣的。孫明同志舉出這一點的不同是很對的。但是他說卍字是萬字的古寫,那就有些問題,所以胡毓秀同志所說的也很對。清代李調元有《正齋璅錄》一書,他的自序謂:
            卍字不入經傳,惟釋藏中有之。釋家謂佛再世生,胸前隱起卍字文,後人始識此字;宣城梅氏不入字彙,自錢塘吳任臣作《元音統韻》末卷始行補入。
            即此可以證明卍字的確不是中土的古字。不過卍字雖不是中土的古字,但是後來習慣上可以當作「萬」字用,卻也是事實。李調元在這篇序文的後邊再說:
            昔倉頡造字,自一而十而百而千而萬,多至不可紀極。今據愚論,但以卍名,不免掛漏;然事始於一而成於卍,以卍統古,所以補匡繆正俗之未備也。故以卍之名於齋者名我書。


            說法(二)

            卍字是佛的三十二種大人相之一。據《長阿含經》說,它是第十六種大人相,位在佛的胸前。又在《大薩遮尼乾子所說經》卷六,說是釋迦世尊的第八十種好相,位於胸前。在《十地經論》第十二卷說,釋迦菩薩在未成佛時,胸臆間即有功德莊嚴金剛卍字相。這就是一般所說的胸臆功德相。但是在《方廣大莊嚴經》卷三,說佛的頭髮也有五個卍字相。在《有部毗奈耶雜事》第二十九卷,說佛的腰間也有卍字相。「卍」僅是符號,而不是文字。它是表示吉祥無比,稱為吉祥海雲,又稱吉祥喜旋。因此,在《大般若經》第三百八十一卷說︰佛的手足及胸臆之前都有吉祥喜旋,以表佛的功德。


            卍字的符號,有向右旋──更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
        • 纳粹标记是逆时针,佛教的标记是顺时针。
        • 方向相反,佛教万字是两个之(or Z)交叉,纳粹的就是镜像了。
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        • 宗教迷恋?希特勒为什么用“卐”作纳粹标志 (ZT)
          本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛  “卐”是上古时代许多部落的一种符咒,在古代印度、波斯、希腊、埃及、特洛伊等国的历史上均有出现,后来被古代的一些宗教所沿用。最初人们把它看成是太阳或火的象征,以后普遍被作为吉祥的标志。随着古代印度佛教的传播,“卍”字也传入中国。这个字梵文读“室利踞蹉洛刹那”,意思是“吉祥海云相”,也就是呈现在大海云天之间的吉祥象征。它被画在佛祖如来的胸部,被佛教徒认为是“瑞相”,能涌出宝光,“其光晃昱,有千百色”。
            中国佛教对“卍”字的翻译也不尽一致,北魏时期的一部经书把它译成“万”字,唐代玄奘等人将它译成“德”字,强调佛的功德无量,唐代女皇帝武则天又把它定为“万”字,意思是集天下一切吉祥功德。“卍”字有两种写法,一种是右旋,—种是左旋(“卐”)。佛家大多认为应以右旋为准,因为佛教以右旋为吉祥,佛家举行各种佛教仪式都是右旋进行的。这个被佛教徒视为吉祥和功德的具有神秘色彩的符号,竟被德国法西斯头子希特勒用来做了他的党旗标志。当然这与佛教毫无关系。希特勒亲自设计的党旗为红底白圆心,中间嵌一个黑色“卐”字。希特勒对他们设计非常满意,认为“这是一个真正的象征”。他在《我的奋斗》一书中说:"红色象征我们这个运动的社会意义,白色象征民族主义思想。‘卐‘字象征争取雅利安人胜利斗争的使命。"后来,希特勒还为他的冲锋队员和党员设计了“卐”字臂章和“卐”字锦旗。
            希特勒选“卐”字做标志的原因,有几种说法。一说是根据纳粹党名设计的。 纳粹党的意思是“国家社会党”,在德文中“国家”和“社会”的字头都是“s”,两个字头交错重叠在一起,就形成了“卐”字形状。不过,佛家“卍”是金色,纳粹“卐” 是黑色。另一种说法是美国学者罗伯特?佩恩提出的。佩恩认为,希特勒从小就有 一股崇拜权威,追求权力的强烈欲望。小时候,他家附近有一座古老的修道院,修 道院的过道、石井、修道士的座位以及院长外套的袖子上都饰有“卐”字标志。希 特勒崇拜院长的权势,把“卐”视为院长权威的象征.希望自己有朝一日能像院长 那样拥有至高无上的权威。佩恩认为,这是他后来选用“卐”字做党旗符号的原因。 还有一种说法是,希特勒受到一个名叫"新圣堂骑士团"反犹组织的影响。这个组 织认为,雅利安人是最优秀的民族,必须保持其纯洁的血统,世界才有希望。这与 希特勒的观点是一致的。这个组织的发起者是一个传教士兼占星家,他为希特勒占卜,预言他日后将是震憾世界的人。听了这些话,希特勒很振奋。这个组织的标志 符号就是“卐”字。所以,他在后来设计党旗时,选用了这一符号。
            这一颇具神秘色彩的“卐”字称号,曾使无数纳粹党徒为之疯狂,他们曾聚集在 这一旗帜下干尽了坏事。第二次世界大战法西斯战败,这一标志也随即被粉碎.但 是,在2000年11月,一位英国记者却在离柏林110公里处的一片丛林中从高空拍 到了一幅用树木组成的“卐”字这一法西斯标志。它是由48棵与周围不同树种的树 组成的,长度和宽度均为60米,线条分明,标志明显。这48棵树属落叶松,周围都是 四季长青的针叶松.春夏两季它们没有区别,但每到深秋和初冬,落叶松的叶子逐 渐变成黄色,一个黄色的“卐”字符号便凸显出来了。据查,这是希特勒活动猖獗 时,一个法国乡下的土财主特意栽种的。照片一经刊出,立即引起人们的抗议,纷 纷要求法国政府立即将其铲除.法国法律也不允许在任何场合公开展示纳粹党标 志,所以这个由树木组成的纳粹标志很快就被消除了。更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • 当年希特勒要灭绝犹太人, 基本上是得到整个日尔曼民族的支持, 就是欧洲其他国家, 也没有太强烈的反对的声音. 曾经百思不得其解, 后来找到答案了. 为什么? 请读圣经
      马 太 福 音 Matthew

      27:20 祭 司 长 和 长 老 , 挑 唆 众 人 , 求 释 放 巴 拉 巴 , 除 灭 耶 稣 。
      27:21 巡 抚 对 众 人 说 , 这 两 个 人 , 你 们 要 我 释 放 哪 一 个 给 你 们 呢 ? 他 们 说 , 巴 拉 巴 。
      27:22 彼 拉 多 说 , 这 样 , 那 称 为 基 督 的 耶 稣 , 我 怎 么 办 他 呢 ? 他 们 都 说 , 把 他 钉 十 字 架 。
      27:23 巡 抚 说 , 为 什 么 呢 ? 他 作 了 什 么 恶 事 呢 ? 他 们 便 极 力 地 喊 着 说 , 把 他 钉 十 字 架 。
      27:24 彼 拉 多 见 说 也 无 济 于 事 , 反 要 生 乱 , 就 拿 水 在 众 人 面 前 洗 手 , 说 , 流 这 义 人 的 血 , 罪 不 在 我 , 你 们 承 当 吧 。
      27:25 众 人 都 回 答 说 , 他 的 血 归 到 我 们 , 和 我 们 的 子 孙 身 上 。

      希特勒杀犹太人有政治经济的原因, 但是能够让整个民族把灭绝人性的事当作正义行为的, 只有是宗教. "他的血归到我们,和我们的子孙身上。...." 这就是我为什么说基督教是邪教!
      • 如果你看过圣经的<<罗马书>>,你就不会说灭绝犹太人是神的旨意。事实上犹太人是神的选民,是神曾给予特别恩惠的。<<罗马书>>的作者保罗是纯种的犹太人,他按照神的旨意最早把基督的道理传到外邦。
        本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛今天基督教在西方社会的流行,说到源头,是这位犹太传教士的功劳。

        在<<罗马书>>第九章到第十一章,保罗对着罗马人(希腊人),讲述了他身为以色列人,对以色列人被神离弃的痛苦。也启示了神对以色列民族长远的计划。

        9:1 我在基督里说真话,并不谎言,有我良心被圣灵感动,给我作见证。
        9:2 我是大有忧愁,心里时常伤痛;
        9:3 为我弟兄、我骨肉之亲,就是自己被咒诅,与基督分离,我也愿意。
        9:4 他们是以色列人,那儿子的名分、荣耀、诸约、律法、礼仪、应许,都是他们的。
        9:5 列祖就是他们的祖宗,按肉体说,基督也是从他们出来的,

        11:1 我且说, 神弃绝了他的百姓吗?断乎没有!因为我也是以色列人,亚伯拉罕的后裔,属便雅悯支派的。
        11:2 神并没有弃绝他预先所知道的百姓。你们岂不晓得经上论到以利亚是怎么说的呢?他在 神面前怎样控告以色列人说:
        11:3 “主啊,他们杀了你的先知,拆了你的祭坛,只剩下我一个人,他们还要寻索我的命。”
        11:4 神的回话是怎么说的呢?他说:“我为自己留下七千人,是未曾向巴力屈膝的。”
        11:5 如今也是这样,照著拣选的恩典,还有所留的余数。

        11:11 我且说,他们失脚是要他们跌倒吗?断乎不是!反倒因他们的过失,救恩便临到外邦人,要激动他们发愤。
        11:12 若他们的过失,为天下的富足,他们的缺乏,为外邦人的富足,何况他们的丰满呢?。
        11:13 我对你们外邦人说这话,因我是外邦人的使徒,所以敬重我的职分(注:“敬重”原文作“荣耀”)。
        11:14 或者可以激动我骨肉之亲发愤,好救他们一些人。
        11:15 若他们被丢弃,天下就得与 神和好,他们被收纳,岂不是死而复生吗?
        11:16 所献的新面若是圣洁,全团也就圣洁了;树根若是圣洁,树枝也就圣洁了。
        11:17 若有几根枝子被折下来,你这野橄榄得接在其中,一同得著橄榄根的肥汁,
        11:18 你就不可向旧枝子夸口;若是夸口,当知道不是你托著根,乃是根托著你。
        11:19 你若说:“那枝子被折下来是特为叫我接上。”
        11:20 不错!他们因为不信,所以被折下来;你因为信,所以立得住;你不可自高,反要惧怕。
        11:21 神既不爱惜原来的枝子,也必不爱惜你。
        11:22 可见 神的恩慈和严厉,向那跌倒的人是严厉的,向你是有恩慈的。只要你长久在他的恩慈里,不然,你也要被砍下来。
        11:23 而且他们若不是长久不信,仍要被接上,因为 神能够把他们从新接上。
        11:24 你是从那天生的野橄榄上砍下来的,尚且逆著性得接在好橄榄上,何况这本树的枝子要接在本树上呢!
        11:25 弟兄们,我不愿意你们不知道这奥秘(恐怕你们自以为聪明):就是以色列人有几分是硬心的,等到外邦人的数目添满了,
        11:26 于是以色列全家都要得救。如经上所记:“必有一位救主从锡安出来,要消除雅各家的一切罪恶。”
        11:27 又说:“我除去他们罪的时候,这就是我与他们所立的约。”
        11:28 就著福音说,他们为你们的缘故是仇敌;就著拣选说,他们为列祖的缘故是蒙爱的。
        11:29 因为 神的恩赐和选召是没有后悔的。
        11:30 你们从前不顺服 神,如今因他们的不顺服,你们倒蒙了怜恤。
        11:31 这样,他们也是不顺服,叫他们因著施给你们的怜恤,现在也就蒙怜恤。
        11:32 因为 神将众人都圈在不顺服之中,特意要怜恤众人。更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
        • 我什么时候说过 "灭绝犹太人是神的旨意"? 是你们教徒自己这样认为的吧?
      • "他的血归到我们,和我们的子孙身上。...." 这句话是犹太人自己喊的。你在圣经里找没找到一句话说神把流基督血的罪归到犹太人和犹太人的子孙身上? ---- 你可以不仁, 我不能不义。
        • 我什么时候说过"神把流基督血的罪归到犹太人"? 那句话是犹太人自己喊的, 但写在你们的WORD OF LOAD中, 有人就用它作为种族灭绝的理由.
          凭空捏造, 到底谁不仁不义?
        • 你有什么根据说这句话是犹太人自己喊的?明明是圣经里污蔑犹太人的故事,你反倒说是犹太人自己的错.
    • 北美的华人教会至少一半以上对基督教的历史、背景都是知晓不多,甚至对圣经也是一知半解。原因就是教会从来不好好负责地对众人讲解,读圣经也是只言片语,从不在一个整体的高度让众人有个全面的认识。整天背精句唱赞歌,晕了众人的头!
      • 敢吗? 有个全面的认识就不会信了. 就是要晕了众人的头, 才会稀里糊涂地决志.
        • 每当教会要吸引一名新教友的时候,首先会问其人有什么困难需要教会帮忙。这岂不是在潜台词里告诉人家,我知道你不会因为信仰来教会,而是因为寻求帮助而来?
          • 晕,我要祝您身体健康。您看看我这潜台词是啥?您知道什么叫“小人之心。。。。。”,“狗咬。。。”?我看您真需要帮助。
            • 您老是来自哪个教会的? 您们教会是不是教您这样讲话损人的? 您老没有“恼羞成怒”吧?
              • 正是因为俺没学好心直口快喜欢多事才能这样理解您。别人心地善良给您留面子的听到您这“潜台词”逻辑只能认为您不可理喻是不会当面给您指出的。得,算我多事好了以后您有什么缺点俺是不管了。
        • In fact, the more you understand Bible, the more you will believe.
      • 是很有趣,在这个坛子里有的教徒认为"天主教是反基督教"的; 有的教徒认为"基督教只有500年历史"的; 有的教徒认为"现代文明就是基督教文明"的; 有的教徒认为"敬畏神明是古往今来最基本的道德底线"的 ; 让人叹为观止....
        • Bible is the final authority.
          • 对了,我想起来了,就是你说"Catholic is anti-chirst"的,解释一下,你在BIBLE里哪里学到的?